Reflection #2 – [08/30] – [Lindah Kotut]

  • Justin Cheng, Cristian Danescu-Niculescu-Mizil, Jure Leskovec. “Antisocial Behavior in Online Discussion Communities.”

Brief:

Cheng et al considered discussion posting from CNN, Breitbart and IGN to study anti-social behavior — mostly trolling, using banned users from these discussion  communities as the ground truth. They applied retrospective longitudinal analysis on these banned users to be able to categorize their behavior. Most of hypothesis about behaviors: change in posting language and frequency, community chastisement and moderator intervention by issuing warnings, temporary or permanent banning – all bear out to be useful markers in creating a classifier that could predict a Future Banned User (FBU) within a few posts.

Reflection:

Considering the anti-social markers and other factors surrounding the posters, we can reflect on different facets and their implications on the classifier and/or the discussion community.

The drunk uncle hypothesis: A cultural metaphor of the relative who makes a nuisance of themselves at formal/serious events (deliberately?) is an equivalent anti-social behavior to online trolls as defined by Cheng et al. (they are given multiple chances and warning to behave accordingly, they cause chaos in discussions, and the community may tolerate them for a time, before they are banned). Questions surrounding the drunk uncle serves as an excellent springboard to query the online troll behavior:

  • What triggered it? (what can be learned from the dileanating point between innocuous and anti-social posts?)
  • Once the drunk uncle is banned from future formal events, do they cease to be the ‘drunk uncle’? — this paper considers some aspect of this with temporary bans. On banning, does the behavior suddenly stop, and the FBU is suitably chastised?

Hijacked profiles and mass chaos: The authors did not make any assumption about the change of posting behavior/language — a troll marker. They only made observations that such behaviors could be used to predict a FBU, but not that the account could have been compromised. I point to the curious case of the Florida dentist posting markedly different sentiments on Twitter  (an intrepid commenter found that the good dentist had bee dead for 3 years, and included an obituary conveniently bearing the same picture as the profile. With this lens in mind:

  • When viewing posts classified to be by FBUs, and given the authors claim of generalization of their model, and swiveling the lens and assuming commenters to be in good faith and a sudden change in behavior an anomaly, what tweaks would need to be made in order to recognize hijacked account (would other markers have to be considered sch as time difference, mass change of behavior, bot-like comments)?
  • The model heavily relies on moderator to classify FBUs, and given the unreliable signals of down-voting, what happens when a troll cannot be stopped? Do other commenters ignore the troll, or abandons the thread entirely?
  • On Trolling-as-a-service, and learning from the mass manipulation of Yelp and Amazon reviews whenever a controversy linked to a place/book (and how the posters have become more sophisticated at beating the Yelp classifier), (how) does this manifest in commenting?

The Discus® Effect: The authors used Discus (either partly or wholly) for this work, and proposed looking at other online communities to challenge both the generalizability of their model, and to observe differences considering a specialized groups. There is another factor to consider in this case: Since the commenters are registered to Disqus and the platform is used by a multitude of websites…

  • What can be learned about a FBU from one community, assuming CNN was using Disqus, and how this behavior transferred to other sites (especially since all comments across different sites are viewable from the users account)?

 

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Reflection #1 – [08/28] – [Lindah Kotut]

  • Judith S. Donath. “Identity and Deception in the Virtual Community.
  • Michael S. Bernstein, Andrés Monroy-Hernández, Drew Harry, Paul André, Katrina Panovich, Greg Vargas. “4chan and /b/: An Analysis of Anonymity and Ephemerality in a Large Online Community.

The two papers approach identity in online communities with some diverging focus: Bernstein’s on ephemerality and Donath on reputation. The value in their contribution in our estimation, is in how much in common they have, and the implications their observations have (had) in present and future online communities. Thus, the summary and the reflection will cover both papers in an intertwining fashion.

Brief:
What currency is considered important in a given community? (Does this importance scale across other communities?)
Two major online communities are covered by these papers: Donath’s being an earlier paper considers Usenet, and Bernstein et al., 4Chan. Both these communities involve users starting threads for a given reason, and other members in the community are given leave to chime in with their views/support/comments – these comments subjectively given different weight as far as how useful they are. Community members (speaking of both the platform as a whole and considering specific groups), have different means of establishing and weighing identity and credibility to then make decisions on whether to trust the posts.

The papers diverge from this point: Donath proceeds to argue on the importance of a poster proving their identity overtly, and/or users determining the authority based on previous posts, while Bernstein et al. proceeds to consider how the /b/ forum continue to flourish with some sort of order while at the same time over 90% of the users preferring to remain anonymous.

Reflection
We presently have the advantage of back-sight that the authors of the pair of papers did not have at the time, and thus can judge the papers based on both prescience and longevity. While Usenet has been usurped by other — more efficient groups, the cultural behaviors remain prescient. 4chan and /b/ are alive and ever active, and we can also use recent events as a lens by which to reflect on Bernstein’s work.

Q1: Anonymity == Deception?
According to both papers, no.
But it’s not quite that straightforward: Oh to be a fly on the wall when both /b/ and Usenet was born! Both papers presented the cultures expected of users in both communities as a given. A new user is expected to first observe, learn and then participate in adherence to the communities’ culture. Watching the birth and evolution would’ve been invaluable. Thus giving rise to interesting questions:

  • But how did the consensus on how to behave come to be?
  • Does this convergence to a consensus scale to other social media?
  • What does this tell us about how we self-organize on the web?

The early days of Twitter for example, was filled with exquisitely minute descriptions of users’ daily lives, which evolved as the platform gained popularity, and the users adjusted their behaviors to match. The blue check-mark for example a more recent addition to the service Twitter offers, serves as an identity verification. In contrast to Donath’s work, this Twitter’s mark of authenticity serves to decouple authority from identity. Just because you say you are who you are, does not mean that you are then to be trusted. Yet, there is still space for anonymity with reputation established as Donath described: by users concluding based on previous posts, that the given user is to be trusted: Case in point: @NYCSouthPaw, whose reputation with providing a legal view on politics can be considered trusted (the user revealed his identity very recently). 4Chan, according to Bernstein’s view, necessitates a much faster means of establishing “credibility” (given how fast posts expire). This serves to narrow the focus towards using in-culture lingo – not as a measure of reputation, but rather as a measure of belonging — this being of a higher importance over identity and outright reputation measures .

The question on credibility on 4chan has also been prescient – given the rise of QAnon, and how tripcodes are used to prove that the poster is indeed 4chan and not an usurper, which while granting an irrefutable identity to the poster, also allows (an illusion of) credibility, and expansion to other online communities.

Q2: Ephemerality vs Archiving: Which is best?
This is touched upon by Donath, who importantly notes the fact that ephemerality matches the real-world right of forgiving and forgetting, and where the move towards “internet is forever” is an anti-thesis to this. The larger question, beyond remembering data is attribution, the fact that a verified (identified) user is attributed to a certain content that would live perpetually online raises the question on both the usefulness of enforcing identification and the rise of the “Right to be Forgotten” movement.

Both 4chan and Usenet members have/had an archival tool available to store information they consider important in some ways. Beyond how they store and re-incarnate favorite/popular posts:

  • What considerations goes (beyond popularity) into making the decisions to archive a post?
  • How often did the archived content got requested/re-upped?
  • Does this have a larger implication on how users curate information?

Q3: What are the implication of online behavior on the real world?
The use of Facebook and Twitter as organizing platforms is widely known, and so is the overflow of ideas from one online community to the world at large. Considering more recent phenomnea: QAnon (a 4Chan creation) was a rallying point and a major point of discussion at a real-world venue.

The more things change…
Considering more recent online communities: Facebook, Twitter and StackOverflow, reputation is important for all of these platforms, and an explicit measure and action is provided: by likes, by follows, or by vote. These measures  have a factor on trust, and leads users by default to act towards establishing reputation — without necessarily establishing identity.

Apart from Facebook and Twitter – when considering blue check marks, identity is not as important: privacy and anonymity is more understood and appreciated.

Ephemerality has been adopted – at least in the social context as a means of offering a choice: Snapchat as a platform allows posts to expire and deleted forever (there are apps that offer a mitigation from this feature) and in Instagram and Facebook on stories. But also archiving is provided by default, accommodating both the need to be forgotten and the need to remember on demand.

How about the use of multiple online aliases, the motivation behind their creation, and the effect they have, as presented by Donath? this is still an open and very interesting question.

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